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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://twwly.com/2010/06/06/with-an-oink-oink-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3348</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baby pigs are the best.  except when they&#039;re doing that crazy ass loud squeal.  i can&#039;t fathom how something so small and cute can make such ear piercing noises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baby pigs are the best.  except when they&#8217;re doing that crazy ass loud squeal.  i can&#8217;t fathom how something so small and cute can make such ear piercing noises.</p>
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		<title>By: Ella</title>
		<link>http://twwly.com/2010/06/06/with-an-oink-oink-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, What Ashley chooses to feed herself and her family is none of your business. Unless of course you are going to cover her food bills yourself.

She raises her meat in the most humane way possible, she treats each animal with love and respect, getting it medical care should it be called for and doing her best to make sure every little piggy or chook is happy and healthy. That&#039;s more than can be said for most farmers, industrial or hobby. 

This blog isn&#039;t about killing and exploiting animals, it&#039;s about her life. Explain to me how the protest blogs on wind farming relate to the slaughter of animals? Or are you too caught up in your self righteous preaching that you&#039;re blind to anything that you cant get your knickers in a knot over?

Perhaps vegetarianism and veganism doesn&#039;t suit Ashley for health reasons? God knows being Vegan nearly killed me, and I make no apologies for going back to eating meat in order to preserve my health. The decision to continue eating meat doesn&#039;t equate to laziness and lack of will power, it&#039;s a personal choice.

If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t read it, and if you hate people eating meat, go protest outside of a slaughter house or factory farm instead of wasting time playing keyboard warrior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, What Ashley chooses to feed herself and her family is none of your business. Unless of course you are going to cover her food bills yourself.</p>
<p>She raises her meat in the most humane way possible, she treats each animal with love and respect, getting it medical care should it be called for and doing her best to make sure every little piggy or chook is happy and healthy. That&#8217;s more than can be said for most farmers, industrial or hobby. </p>
<p>This blog isn&#8217;t about killing and exploiting animals, it&#8217;s about her life. Explain to me how the protest blogs on wind farming relate to the slaughter of animals? Or are you too caught up in your self righteous preaching that you&#8217;re blind to anything that you cant get your knickers in a knot over?</p>
<p>Perhaps vegetarianism and veganism doesn&#8217;t suit Ashley for health reasons? God knows being Vegan nearly killed me, and I make no apologies for going back to eating meat in order to preserve my health. The decision to continue eating meat doesn&#8217;t equate to laziness and lack of will power, it&#8217;s a personal choice.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t read it, and if you hate people eating meat, go protest outside of a slaughter house or factory farm instead of wasting time playing keyboard warrior.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://twwly.com/2010/06/06/with-an-oink-oink-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3308</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 01:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say, I expected more openness on this blog. It is clear that the writer and especially the readers are just anti anyone who disagrees with them. 

It must get very boring living in a world where everyone around you shares EVERY view that you have. 

After reading more of your blog, I see that you usually use straw man arguments and red herrings to prove your one sided view of the way things should be done. The worst part is that the people who read your blog seem to not know the difference between a false argument and a valid argument.

1) I asked a simple question of you. 

2) I got a rather silly poorly thought out argument back that ended in a misleading accusation of me suggesting cannibalism. 

3) I post back that I respect that you do not practice speciesism. 

4) Then your followers go on to lavish praise to you over your response.

Anyway,  it is clear that this blog is simply about killing animals because you lack the will power to live a life that does not involve satisfying your own needs. You even say that every time you have to kill an animal you think about becoming a vegetarian, and every time you make cheese you think about becoming a vegan, but it does not suit you. In other words, you lack the will power to think of the animals needs over your own.

To em:

Q - how many meat eaters does it take to change a light bulb?
A- it doesn&#039;t matter they like to stay in the dark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say, I expected more openness on this blog. It is clear that the writer and especially the readers are just anti anyone who disagrees with them. </p>
<p>It must get very boring living in a world where everyone around you shares EVERY view that you have. </p>
<p>After reading more of your blog, I see that you usually use straw man arguments and red herrings to prove your one sided view of the way things should be done. The worst part is that the people who read your blog seem to not know the difference between a false argument and a valid argument.</p>
<p>1) I asked a simple question of you. </p>
<p>2) I got a rather silly poorly thought out argument back that ended in a misleading accusation of me suggesting cannibalism. </p>
<p>3) I post back that I respect that you do not practice speciesism. </p>
<p>4) Then your followers go on to lavish praise to you over your response.</p>
<p>Anyway,  it is clear that this blog is simply about killing animals because you lack the will power to live a life that does not involve satisfying your own needs. You even say that every time you have to kill an animal you think about becoming a vegetarian, and every time you make cheese you think about becoming a vegan, but it does not suit you. In other words, you lack the will power to think of the animals needs over your own.</p>
<p>To em:</p>
<p>Q &#8211; how many meat eaters does it take to change a light bulb?<br />
A- it doesn&#8217;t matter they like to stay in the dark!</p>
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		<title>By: em</title>
		<link>http://twwly.com/2010/06/06/with-an-oink-oink-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3305</link>
		<dc:creator>em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love your blog ashley

i have no respect for people who buy meat from the grocery store and will bash people who raise, or hunt meat for the family

because

you should take responsibility for what you eat and know where it comes from, before sharing naive opinions 

( usually city dweller opinions )

just a side:

&quot; how do you know someone is vegan?  - they tell you in the first 10 minutes of meeting them....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love your blog ashley</p>
<p>i have no respect for people who buy meat from the grocery store and will bash people who raise, or hunt meat for the family</p>
<p>because</p>
<p>you should take responsibility for what you eat and know where it comes from, before sharing naive opinions </p>
<p>( usually city dweller opinions )</p>
<p>just a side:</p>
<p>&#8221; how do you know someone is vegan?  &#8211; they tell you in the first 10 minutes of meeting them&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://twwly.com/2010/06/06/with-an-oink-oink-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3304</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley, I was very disappointed to see the negative (and, in my opinion, overly emotive) replies to your post, but VERY impressed by your calm, level-headed approach to them!  Nicely handled! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, I was very disappointed to see the negative (and, in my opinion, overly emotive) replies to your post, but VERY impressed by your calm, level-headed approach to them!  Nicely handled! <img src='http://twwly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, there are some downright creepy posts in this thread. Kudos to Ashley for not deleting them outright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, there are some downright creepy posts in this thread. Kudos to Ashley for not deleting them outright.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://twwly.com/2010/06/06/with-an-oink-oink-here/comment-page-1/#comment-3299</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response.

I appreciate the honesty in your reply. It is my experience that many meat eaters practice speciesism. If you are open to eating all meat regardless of cultural boundries then I have to respect that. I disagree with it, but I atleast respect that you will admit it and that you are consistent in your beliefs.

As for your other comments, I would have left the same comment if this blog was about a fish, chicken, cow, horse, etc etc etc. I do not see any difference in those animals and a pig. This was my first visit to your site and this was the newest blog.

Oh, and for the record, I did not make any suggestions of eating your children or cannibalism. I believe that was a different person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response.</p>
<p>I appreciate the honesty in your reply. It is my experience that many meat eaters practice speciesism. If you are open to eating all meat regardless of cultural boundries then I have to respect that. I disagree with it, but I atleast respect that you will admit it and that you are consistent in your beliefs.</p>
<p>As for your other comments, I would have left the same comment if this blog was about a fish, chicken, cow, horse, etc etc etc. I do not see any difference in those animals and a pig. This was my first visit to your site and this was the newest blog.</p>
<p>Oh, and for the record, I did not make any suggestions of eating your children or cannibalism. I believe that was a different person.</p>
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		<title>By: Twwly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twwly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you wanted to eat your dog Steve, go right ahead.  If you found dog delicious, you are free to raise it, love it and eat it.  That&#039;s your choice. And I would applaud you for doing so instead of buying your dog meat at the imaginary dog-meat carrying North American grocery store.  

Many people, as you did note, eat dogs.  The idea of eating a dog in no way offends me.   I tried the horse meat while I was in Italy, I enjoyed it but it wasn&#039;t something my palate was used to and it&#039;s not something I continued to eat once home.  

My husband and I are Canadian Brits, we enjoy ham &amp; beans, bangers and mash, bacon and eggs.  It is common place to eat pig, I like pork, therefore I am raising pigs.  Cute and smart like a dog, absolutely.  Also... a delicious food stuff that I enjoy eating.

I love bacon and sausage, but I don&#039;t love eating industrial ag products.  Instead of buying pasture raised pork from our neighbours we decided to raise them ourselves.   This was primarily a decision based in economics, but also we like pigs, therefore felt we would have a go at raising them ourselves.  We want our children to appreciate any meat that they eat.  I think does a disservice to children to shield them from the origins and creation of their food.  

We eat mostly vegetarian meals.  We want the meat we do eat to be treated as humanely as possible until the point of death, which we aim to be as limited in stress as can be.  We raise extra (2 pigs would be more than we could ever consume) to cover the cost of the meat we keep for ourselves.  Every year it comes around to be butcher time, we contemplate vegetarianism.  Every time I eat butter or make cheese I contemplate being vegan.  As I have stated before, I have been vegan, it did not suit me.  I am not some gung-ho rabid to slaughter nitwit.  Whatever response Steve was trying to conjure up with the classic puppy analogy could have been reduced to a basic question, which I think is what Impy found to be disparaging. 

I find it particularly interesting people are up in arms over the pigs.  I have posted about eating our own chickens for years and never have I had such an onslaught of frankly snide feedback.  I am guessing it&#039;s because people think the pigs are cute and smart like dogs?  I think this is why so many people come up with the dog argument, ala Steve here.  Consistently I have noticed the life of a dairy sheep used to produce cheese, a stupid chicken, manky goat or supposedly memory-less fish gets much less attention. 


If Steve or anyone else would like to proceed in making comments about cannibalism or eating my children, I will be deleting the comment.  I believe I have responded sufficiently about why we chose to raise and eat our own animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you wanted to eat your dog Steve, go right ahead.  If you found dog delicious, you are free to raise it, love it and eat it.  That&#8217;s your choice. And I would applaud you for doing so instead of buying your dog meat at the imaginary dog-meat carrying North American grocery store.  </p>
<p>Many people, as you did note, eat dogs.  The idea of eating a dog in no way offends me.   I tried the horse meat while I was in Italy, I enjoyed it but it wasn&#8217;t something my palate was used to and it&#8217;s not something I continued to eat once home.  </p>
<p>My husband and I are Canadian Brits, we enjoy ham &amp; beans, bangers and mash, bacon and eggs.  It is common place to eat pig, I like pork, therefore I am raising pigs.  Cute and smart like a dog, absolutely.  Also&#8230; a delicious food stuff that I enjoy eating.</p>
<p>I love bacon and sausage, but I don&#8217;t love eating industrial ag products.  Instead of buying pasture raised pork from our neighbours we decided to raise them ourselves.   This was primarily a decision based in economics, but also we like pigs, therefore felt we would have a go at raising them ourselves.  We want our children to appreciate any meat that they eat.  I think does a disservice to children to shield them from the origins and creation of their food.  </p>
<p>We eat mostly vegetarian meals.  We want the meat we do eat to be treated as humanely as possible until the point of death, which we aim to be as limited in stress as can be.  We raise extra (2 pigs would be more than we could ever consume) to cover the cost of the meat we keep for ourselves.  Every year it comes around to be butcher time, we contemplate vegetarianism.  Every time I eat butter or make cheese I contemplate being vegan.  As I have stated before, I have been vegan, it did not suit me.  I am not some gung-ho rabid to slaughter nitwit.  Whatever response Steve was trying to conjure up with the classic puppy analogy could have been reduced to a basic question, which I think is what Impy found to be disparaging. </p>
<p>I find it particularly interesting people are up in arms over the pigs.  I have posted about eating our own chickens for years and never have I had such an onslaught of frankly snide feedback.  I am guessing it&#8217;s because people think the pigs are cute and smart like dogs?  I think this is why so many people come up with the dog argument, ala Steve here.  Consistently I have noticed the life of a dairy sheep used to produce cheese, a stupid chicken, manky goat or supposedly memory-less fish gets much less attention. </p>
<p>If Steve or anyone else would like to proceed in making comments about cannibalism or eating my children, I will be deleting the comment.  I believe I have responded sufficiently about why we chose to raise and eat our own animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley, I love the farm and what ya&#039;ll stand for.

Steve, there is no difference between dogs and any other animal. While I have never had dog meat, I firmly believe in the boundless nutrition of animal flesh. I strive to feed my family as well as possible and if dogs were all we had to eat, I&#039;d eat them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, I love the farm and what ya&#8217;ll stand for.</p>
<p>Steve, there is no difference between dogs and any other animal. While I have never had dog meat, I firmly believe in the boundless nutrition of animal flesh. I strive to feed my family as well as possible and if dogs were all we had to eat, I&#8217;d eat them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impy,

I am not sure that my comment is disparaging. I am simply asking a question. I was reading this blog because I respect several things about the lifestyle of the writer. I respect the self sufficiency of Ashley&#039;s life. I respect that she leads a life in which she tries to make her foot print as small as possible. However, I do not respect her views on animals and want to know her view on my question. That question being, &quot;what is the difference between my fictional dog and her pig?&quot;

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impy,</p>
<p>I am not sure that my comment is disparaging. I am simply asking a question. I was reading this blog because I respect several things about the lifestyle of the writer. I respect the self sufficiency of Ashley&#8217;s life. I respect that she leads a life in which she tries to make her foot print as small as possible. However, I do not respect her views on animals and want to know her view on my question. That question being, &#8220;what is the difference between my fictional dog and her pig?&#8221;</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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